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August 11, 2006

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Bob

Amen, David. The whole idea of calling it a "war on terror" allows the administration to dehumanize the war. We're not fighting against certain people; we're fighting a tactic.

David Weintraub

I think that it should be a relatively simple matter to put ourselves in the place of the average person, and ask what would you rather do with your life, given reasonable options: be a terrorist and give up your life, or spend your life doing something productive and fulfilling (although I don't get the insurance salesman thing either), raising a family, being part of a community?

That answer is a no-brainer unless you are committed to the idea that "those people" are somehow a fundamentally different kind of people - or perhaps not people at all. This is not an accusation directed at Brian for raising the question, but there is obviously a strain of thought out there that offers as "explanation" the same old dehumanization of "they don't value life the way we do."

That is less than helpful, in my view. If it appears to you that someone doesn't value life the way you do, the place to begin looking for answers is a reality that might cause that person to find life untenable. What might make any of us feel that way, as individuals? Then imagine that as a collective experience. What I am suggesting is empathy.

But empathy, generally speaking, is unhelpful for war, so I'm not expecting much buy-in from our fearless leaders.

Bob

I can't provide more info., no more than the administration can substantiate that it is "winning the war on terror." It seems that the increase in suicide bombings over the past decade and the ease with which radicals move within their communities that there is growing support for them. We hear of modern Islamists talk about the phenonmenon from their perpective, which I have to trust more than anything else I have to go on. (see this article.) I hope I haven't made the case to be so simplistic, but I believe that many Muslims who provide cover for terrorists or join their ranks do so more out of frustration that 1/they are disrepsected, feelings of which go back centuries vis-a-vis the West 2/their legitimate grievances are ignored, i.e., the Palestinian question 3/the West is hypocritical in that it says one thing but supports Arab dictatorships that oppress them and thus 4/they see no alternative.

If we showed some respect and nuance in our approach to nations like Iran and Syria and demanded more of Israel, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, we may find over time that indeed those who now support terrorism would prefer life as a teacher or for reasons I can't explain, an insurance salesmen. It seems logical to me -- and please tell me what you know that would dispute this -- that except for a small group of religious fanatics, most Arabs would prefer not to hide in the mountains, get bombed or blow themselves up.

What do you think we should be doing?

Brian

Whatever we offer, it will not be enough for the Islamic radicals. But right now our foreign policy is causing their number to multiply geometrically on an almost daily basis.

Bob, I hear this case made relatively frequently, but I've never seen solid substantiation. I see stories about Muslims signing up for Jihad and their actions are attributed to Iraq/Israel/general Bush Admin. policy/etc.. It seems to me that it is too much to assume that they would be teachers or insurance salesmen or whatever if it weren't America's actions. The best suopprted claims for this meme rely on unidentified sources who claim that it is true. Can you provide me with some better info?


Once we address their frustrated followers core issues, that number will shrink, making the employment of our military more effective.

What do mean by "address their...core issues?"

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